Minutes of the 3 November 2002 Meeting
[Note: These submissions appear on the June 2003 LoAR]
Notes and Announcements
The next kingdom heraldry meeting will be held on December 15. We will have
the traditional holiday party and dessert revel after the meeting. Please bring
a dessert to share as well as the usual lunch potluck item. There will have a
voluntary gift exchange for those interested. Presents should be valued at
about $10 with an SCA theme preferred. Of course, gifts with an heraldic theme
are also very popular.
Only about ten of the forty territorial heralds have submitted third quarter
reports. If you haven't yet, please get your reports to Crescent as soon as
possible. Year-end Domesday reports are due at Twelfth Night on January 4,
2003. Quarterly reports are accepted at
. Event reports should
be sent to .
Corrections to the OP should be sent to
. Crescent would like to
see a series of short articles included in the Crown Prints during months where
we do not have submission and award information. If you have topic ideas or are
interested in writing a small article for the CP (Trumpet's Voice) talk to
Sable Fret (Selene) and Crescent. Articles should be about half a page in
length.
If you know of any peerages taking place, please let Crescent know. Ideally,
the Crown lets Crescent know and the candidate for peerage should contact
Crescent. If any changes are made to the ceremony Crescent must be notified.
Crescent or another senior herald should do the invocation.
As a reminder, summaries of submission information may be sent to Jeanne
Marie via e-mail
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prior to each CoH meeting. For names, this means a summary of the documentation
and of the boxes marked on the form. For armory, this means some attempt at a
blazon. Sending only the name is of minimal help. Do not wait until the last
minute. Folders will be pulled (or created) prior to the meeting for all
submissions that are sent to Jeanne Marie.
* = Great Western War submission
al-Sahid, Shire of
Davi d'Orléans - New Device:
Azure, two fleurs-de-lis Or and a sword inverted winged argent.
The submitter's name was registered in April 2002. This device was returned
in August for lack of funds. It was marked as a resubmission though no previous
submission was made.
These arms conflict with those of France: Azure, three fleurs-de-lys
Or.
Device returned for conflict.
Altavia, Barony of
Katerina Winter of Greystoke - Kingdom Resub. Name and
Device:
Vert, a bend sinister between a falcon contourny and an oak leaf bendwise
sinister argent.
The previous name submission, Katerina Falconcrest, was returned at
the kingdom meeting in Nov. 2001 for lack of documentation of the byname. The
device was pended at that time for lack of a name.
The submitter is interested in having a feminine name authentic for 14th-16th
C. English and if the name mst be changed, she is most concerned with the sound
and language/culture. She will not accept major changes.
Katerina is dated to 1196 under the heading
Katherine on p. 186 in Withycombe.
Winter is dated to 1185 on p. 496 of R&W.
Greystoke is a locative surname found under the heading
Graystoke on p. 203 in R&W. This spelling is not dated,
but dated examples include de Greystok 1251 and Graystoke
1408. In addition, Bardsley dates Graystok to 1542 under the heading
Graystock on p. 338.
Name and device approved and forwarded to Laurel.
Mary Taran of Glastonbury - New Badge:
[Fieldless] A Glastonbury thorn blossom proper.
The submitter's name was registered in Jan. '74. The flower is pink
shading to white at the edges; the thorns are red. We believe this matches the
charge on her device (Glastonbury thorn twig blossoming proper) and it
is thus grandfathered to her. This is clear of [Fieldless] A Tudor
rose, with a CD for fieldless and another for tincture. By the same
reasoning, this should be clear of both York, [Fieldless] A rose
argent and of Lancaster, [Fieldless] A rose gules.
Badge approved and forwarded to Laurel.
Angels, Barony of
Angels, Barony of the - New Badge:
[Fieldless] Two wings conjoined in lure surmounted by a sword Or, the blade
enflamed gules.
While the style of enflaming is no longer considered acceptable, this style
is grandfathered to the Barony as emblazoned in a previous badge registration:
Gules, three swords in fess Or, enflamed proper, which was registered
in Jun. '82.
Badge approved and forwarded to Laurel.
Angels, Barony of the - New Order Name: Order of the
Halo
The barony's name was "registered at some point" long ago,
according to the SCA Armorial. This name will be associated with the baronial
arts & sciences award.
Halo is an English word found on p. 1245 in the OED where
haloes (circles of light about the sun) is dated to 1603. The word
halo (with the usual modern meaning) is dated to 1646.
In "Period Order Names" by Kwellend-Njal Kollskeggson on p. 53 in
KWHs (Midrealm, 2001) there are examples of order names with intangible things
including Holy Ghost (several), Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin,
and Most Holy Annunciation. Given such examples, we believe that this order
name follows a period formation.
Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.
Angus Amhas - Kingdom Resub. Badge:
[Fieldless] On a lion argent a mullet of four points gules.
The submitter's name was registered in Jan. 2001.
Badge approved and forwarded to Laurel.
Erich von Drachenholz - New Household Name: Kompanie
Röter Drachen and Badge:
Per bend rayonny argent and gules, a dragon statant erect gules.
The submitter's name was registered in Sep. '96. He intends this
submission for a household fighting unit connected with House Drachenholz,
which was registered in Oct. '96. He will allow any changes, but wishes
to keep the element Drachen in the name. The meaning is intended to be
"Red Dragons". The badge is to be associated with the new household
name.
Röter is found under rote in Cassell's
German Dictionary, meaning "red". Specifically it is the plural
compound form.
Drachen is found under drache in Cassell's
German Dictionary, as the plural form of dragon.
Kompanie is found under kompa(g)nie in Cassell's
German Dictionary, meaning company in the military sense. We are not sure
which is a more correct period spelling, but followed the usual modern German
spelling without the letter g.
Submitted as Rote Drachen, the necessary designator was
added, the adjective was changed to a plural form and the umlaut added to match
documentation, yielding Kompanie Röter
Drachen.
The badge conflicts with Bela of Eastmarch (06/76), Gyronny sable and
argent, a dragon rampant gules, armed and webbed vert. There is a CD for
changes to the field but nothing for the dragon's posture, nor the arming and
webbing. The move to chief in Erich's badge is forced and thus, not worth a
CD.
Name approved as changed and forwarded to Laurel. Badge returned for
conflict.
Therese of the White Griffin - New Household Name:
House Griffincliffe and Badge:
Vert, a griffin sejant contourny argent maintaining an Arabian lamp
Or.
The submitter's name was registered Sep. '89. The badge is to be
associated with the household name. No preferences were marked.
This name cannot be found directly. We have found several examples of
<given name><-cliff> in Ekwall. Ileclif 1050, and
Ileclife 1130 are found on p. 112, from the personal name
Illa and the old name Cliffe. Marcliff is found on p. 315
from Marana cliue, where "The first el., Mearna... looks
like a pers. n., ...". Under Catsley on p. 90, we found
the forms Catesclive and Cattesclive, meaning "cat's
cliff" dating from the DB. We found Gatley on p. 193,
from Gateclyve or Gaticlyve dated from 1290, meaning
"goat's cliff". On p. 455 we found Swallowcliffe from
Suealewanclif dated to 940. We found "cliff" used with a
supernatural element on p. 418, namely Shincliffe from
Scinneclif, dated to 1085, meaning "the cliff of the spectre or
demon, haunted cliff". On p. 150 we found Drakelow from
Dracen hlawen, meaning "dragon's mound" or hill, dated to
942. On p. 134 of Smith's we found many placenames of the form
"Dragon" + locative: Drakedale, Drakehill, Drakeholes,
Drakelow (hill), Drakenage (edge), Drake North (hoard,
treasure), and Drake Pit (pot). The author notes that all of these
placenames originated from folk tales of treasures, with dragons to guard
against grave robbers.
Griffin is a personal name found on p. 139 in Withycombe. It
is also the name of a mythical beast similar to a dragon, found on p. 1206 in
the OED dating to the 16th C. in this spelling, with early spellings back to
the 14th C. We argue that the name Griffincliffe is a
reasonable construction either as a personal name + cliff, or as a monster or
beast name + cliff.
There is an SCA conflict: Tnek the Ainissestor, Per bend sinister Sable
and Gules, a griffin sejant to sinister argent, July 1983. There is no
difference for the maintained charge.
Name approved and forwarded to Laurel. Badge returned for conflict.
Calafia, Barony of
Dagmar rau›kinn - New Device:
Gules, a pair of scissors inverted expanded in saltire argent handled Or
between in pale a hair comb and hair comb inverted Or.
The submitter's name appears on Caid's Oct. 1st, 2002 LoI. This submission
was pended at the August CoH meeting for lack of forms. We chose to use the
term "expanded" to follow the example in Parker for the arms of the
Company of Tailors, Edinburgh.
Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.
* Mia Sperling - New Name and Device:
Sable, a sinister hand ermine.
The submitter is interested in a feminine name. If the name must be changed
she cares most about the sound ("Meeyah"), and she will not allow
major changes.
Mia is a feminine given name, a short form of
Maria. It is found as a heading on p. 318 dated to 11th-13th C. in
Seibicke, Historisches Deutsches Vornammenbuch, band 3.
Sperling is a surname meaning "sparrow" found on
p. 533 in Bahlow/Gentry under the heading Sperl, where
Johan Sperling is dated to 1285.
Name and device approved and forwarded to Laurel.
Carreg Wen, Shire of
* Hrodebert von dem Kämpfenhasen - New Name and
Device:
Azure ermined, on a roundel argent a hare rampant sable.
The submitter is interested in a masculine name. He is interested in having
his name authentic for 14th-16th C. German, and if the name must be changed, he
cares most about the language/culture and the meaning ("of the fighting
hare"). If a holding name must be formed, he prefers Robert of Carreg
Wen.
Hrodebert is found on p. 254 of Withycombe as the
hypothetical Germanic predecessor of the name Robert.
von dem Kämpfenhasen is an invented name following Part
II.3 and Part III.2.iii of the Rules for Submission of the College of Arms of
the SCA. It is intended to translate as "of the fighting hare" and is
derived from the proposed device submitted with this name. We where unable to
find examples of this type of name; more documentation is needed to show that
this byname follows period patterns.
The device was submitted with the blazon, Azure, semy of daggers, on a
roundel argent a hare rampant sable. We reblazoned them as ermine spots.
If he wants daggers, he needs to draw them larger and fewer with a clearly
dagger-like appearance.
Name returned for lack of documentation of the construction. Device pended
for lack of name.
* Ihon MacLucas - New Name and Device:
Per fess azure and Or, a compass star Or and in saltire two arrows inverted
sable.
The submitter wishes a masculine name appropriate to the language and culture
of Scotland, and will allow minor but not major changes.
Ihon is an early spelling of John, found in the
article "13th and 14th Century Scottish Names" by Symon Freser
(http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/symonFreser/scottish14/scottish14_given.html).
MacLucas is found as a heading on p. 539 in Black. This
spelling is undated, but variations include M'Lucas 1414,
Maklucas 1524, and McLugas 1618.
Name and device approved and forwarded to Laurel.
Dreiburgen, Barony of
Elisabetta Malipiero - Laurel Resub. Device:
Gules, two winged lions statant respectant Or.
The submitter's name was registered in April 2002. Laurel returned her
previous submission, identical to this, for identifiability of the lions. This
resubmission has fixed the problems.
Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.
Heatherwyne, Shire of
Eiríkr Mjoksiglandi Sigur›arson - Laurel
Resub. Badge:
[Fieldless] A drakkar under sail gules, its sail emblazoned with a phoenix
Or.
The submitter's name was registered in May 1998. The previous submission,
[Fieldless] A phoenix rising from an estoile of eight rays Or, was
returned for conflict on the Sep. '01 LoAR. That was a joint badge
submission with Astridr Selr Leifsdóttir. This is a complete
redesign.
Consider the following precedents:
- Brigantia has appealed the long-standing ban on charged sails as giving the
appearance of arms of pretense. Brigantia is correct that certain charges may
themselves be charged so long as they do not give the appearance of pretense.
Unfortunately, all of the examples of charged sails which we have been able to
find depictions of period heraldry were displays of badges or arms claimed by
the person or group who used the armory on which the sail appeared. Thus, such
usage by definition creates an impression of pretense. When Master Wilhelm
made the exception that groups might include a laurel wreath on a sail for
group arms, he was reflecting this attitude, since the laurel wreath is an
insignia to which all Society groups may lay claim. (01/90)
- Long-standing tradition, dating back to August of 1983, dictates that sails
may not be charged in Society heraldry (save for a laurel wreath in group
armoury) since this could be taken as a sign of pretense. (08/89)
- "Sails may not normally be charged in the SCA" (WvS, August,
1983). (02/87)
- There is a long-standing precedent in Society heraldry which considers
charged sails as being equivalent to arms of pretense and therefore forbidden
for Society usage: "You may not charge a sail if the resulting sail
conflicts with existing arms." As the sail here appear identical to at
least one mundane items of armory, this device must be returned. (The passage
of the arms of Eisenmarche cited by Star in the letter of intent is a special
case: the armorial display on the sail there was a special case: the arms of
the Society, which the Board has specifically stated may be displayed by any
group.) Note that removing the boar's head from the sail with several mundane
coats mentioned which involve a ship sable on an argent field. (12/86)
There have been no rulings since the 1990 precedent. RfS XI.4 used to include
"Such arms of pretense are most commonly placed on an inescutcheon or
lozenge, but may also appear on other geometric charges such as roundels,
cartouches, etc." the rules have been changed so that arms of pretence
only specifically apply to charged cantons and escutcheons. Thus we believe
that the precedents against charged sails no longer apply, as by the RfS this
would not be a display of arms of pretense or augmentation of honor. In any
case, the sail does not represent armory protected by the Society.
Badge approved and forwarded to Laurel.
* Ieuan Chwith - New Device:
Argent, a stag's head erased gules and on a chief sable three
bezants.
The submitter's name was registered in April 2001.
We note that the horns are drawn backwards, but don't feel that is enough to
warrant returning the device for a redraw. We should advise the submitter that
his depiction is somewhat unusual.
Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.
Linnet de Hynkersul - New Device:
Or, a chevron purpure between two mortars and pestles vert and a cat sejant
contourny guardant sable marked argent.
The submitter's name appeared on Caid's April 5th, 2002 LoI. The submitter
wishes the cat's markings to be explicitly blazoned.
Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.
* Madelena Hidalgo de Valencia - New Name
The submitter is interested in a feminine name. She will not allow major
changes; however, she explicitly allows the locative to be dropped if necessary
for registration. No other preferences were indicated.
Madelena is found in "Spanish Names from the Late 15th
Century" by Juliana de Luna
(http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/isabella/WomenFullNames.html)
with Madelena de Velasco and Madelena Manrrique cited.
Hildalgo is based on the mundane name allowance. The
submission was taken at Great Western War where there was no access to a
photocopier. Per the Dec. '01 LoAR Cover Letter, the following
information was noted on the submission form: CA driver's license: Mayra M.
Hidalgo-Figueras, driver's license seen be Jeanne Marie Lacroix
(Sommelier Pursuivant) and Honour Grenehart (Silver Trumpet Pursuivant).
According to the submitter, her maiden name was Hidalgo-Gato (no proof of this
was presented).
de Valencia meaning "from Valencia", is found in
"Spanish Names from the Late 15th Century" by Juliana de Luna
(http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/isabella/WomenFullNames.html),
which cites Catalina de Valencia.
Name approved and forwarded to Laurel
* Onóra inghean Uillic - New Name
The submitter is interested in a feminine name, and she will not accept major
changes. No other preferences were indicated.
Onóra is a feminine given name found on p. 150 in
ÓC&M. It is a borrowing of the common Anglo-Norman name
Honora. On p. 154, Withycombe says it is found in Latin records from
the 12th-14th C. in this spelling (though without the accent). She states that
the name "was carried to Ireland by the Normans and became a favourite
name there..."
inghean is the later period Gaelic patronymic marker,
"daughter of".
Uillic is the genitive form (per Woulfe, p. 203) of
Uileac which is a variant of Uileóg, a diminutive of
Uilliam. A separate variant spelling of Uillec is found as a
masculine given name on p. 175 in ÓC&M under the heading
Uilliam. None of these entries are dated.
Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.
* Tachibana Hikaru - New Name and device:
Sable, a quatrefoil within a mascle argent.
The submitter is interested in a masculine name authentic for late 15th/early
16th C. Japan and allows all changes. If the name must be changed, he is most
interested in the language/culture.
Tachibana is dated to 1183 as a surname in Solveig under
Tangerine on p. 159.
Hikaru is an historical masculine nanori dated to 1600 on p.
332 of Solveig.
Name and device approved and forwarded to Laurel.
Naevehjem, Barony of
* Eularia d'Amboise - New Name and device:
Sable, on a chevron argent between three lions' heads caboshed Or a rose
gules.
The submitter is interested in a feminine name, and she will not allow major
changes. No other preferences were indicated.
Eularia is found in "Feminine Given Names in A
Dictionary of English surnames" by Talan Gwynek (KWHS, Triamris AS
XXIX, p. 95), which cites "Eularia (Hillary 1212)".
d'Amboise is a locative surname found under the heading
Ambax on p. 13 in Dauzat & Rostaing's Noms de
lieux. It is also found under Amboise on p. 43 of
Webster's New Geographical Dictionary where it is listed as a French
town on the left bank of the Loire river, 15 miles east of Tours, dating to the
11th C. The "conspiracy of Amboise" is dated there to 1560.
Name and device approved and forwarded to Laurel.
Kaires the Healer - Laurel Resub. Name and Laurel Resub.
Device:
Per saltire gules and azure, a saltire sable fimbriated argent.
The submitter permits no changes. Her previous name submission, Kaires
Tevesu, was returned by Laurel in Apr. '83 with the note
"Document Kaires. Tevesu is not a proper Greek form for 'from
Thebes.' The correct usage is Thebaieus." Her previous device submission,
Per saltire gules and sable, a chevron and a chevron inverted conjoined
azure, fimbriated argent, was returned by Laurel at that time for lack of
contrast and non-period style.
Kaires is a middle name, which is part of the submitter's
mundane legal name. Her driver's license is the sole documentation. The closest
name we found was Caeres in Lempriére's.
the Healer is intended to be a byname of occupation. The
OED, p. 1273, dates this spelling of the word with the intended meaning to
1611.
Name and device approved and forwarded to Laurel.
Starkhafn, Barony of
Áengus O'Flaherty - Kingdom Resub. Device:
Argent pellety, a bull's head cabossed gules.
The submitter's name was registered in Mar. '00. His 1st attempt at this
device was returned at the Nov. '99 meeting for being unblazonable; the field
was approximately "Holstein". His 2nd attempt was returned in Jan.
'00 for redraw because the pellets were too large and the bull's head was
almost entirely on one pellet. His 3rd and latest attempt was returned in Apr.
'02 for redraw as the bull's head was brownish-red and the field was closer to
"Dalmatian". Finally, we can forward something to Laurel for the
submitter!
Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.
Jeneuer Neuille - New Name
The submitter is interested in a feminine name and will accept no
changes.
Jeneuer is a feminine given name found dated to 1296 under
Jennifer in Talan Gwynek's "Feminine Given Names in A
Dictionary of English Surnames" (KWHS, Trimaris, AS XXIX, p. 101). We
note that this spelling is indeed found under the heading Jennifer on
p. 254 of R&W.
Neuille is found under the heading Nevill
on p. 321 in R&W with Gilbert Neuille dated 1142, and de
Nouila dated to 1160.
Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.
* Mikhail Olegovich - Name Change from: Michael of
Starkhafn and New Device:
Quarterly sable and azure, a sword proper within a bordure argent.
The submitter's current name, Michael of Starkhafn, was registered
in May 2002. If the new name is registered, he wishes to keep Michael of
Starkhafn as an alternate name. The submitter is interested in a masculine
name, and he will not accept major changes. No other preferences were
indicated.
Mikhail is dated to 1262-3 under the heading
Mikhai on p. 211 of Wickenden.
Olegovich is dated to the 12th C. under the heading
Oleg on p. 245 of Wickenden.
Name and device approved and forwarded to Laurel.
Starkhafn, Barony of - Kingdom Resub. Guild Name:
Guild of the Gilded Spoon and Badge: Sable, a spoon
inverted bendwise sinister within a bordure rayonny Or.
The submitters care most about the meaning. No other preferences were
indicated. The guild name was returned at the August meeting for lack of
support, which has now been received.
This doesn't conflict with the Order of the Golden Spoon (12/99), as
golden and gilded are different in both sound and appearance.
The OED has gilded in this meaning ("The goodly gilded
cups and goblets") dated to 1566. The word is used earlier by Chaucer
"With many glade gilde stremys" dated 1369. The meaning "tinged
with a golden color" is dated to 1588 from Shakespeare. The first use of
spon as an eating utensil is dated 1340. Spone is dated from
1380-1553, and the spelling spoon is dated 1426.
The badge is to be associated with the Guild of the Gilded Spoon. The first
attempt at this badge was returned by Crescent in Aug. '02 for drawing the
spoon in trian aspect and fimbriating a bordure. This version was pended in
Sep. for lack of support, which has now been received.
Name and badge approved and forwarded to Laurel.
Western Seas, Barony of
* Ailionóra inghean Thighearnaigh - New Name
The submitter is interested in a feminine name. If the name must be changed
she cares most about the meaning ("Ailionóra, daughter of
Tighearnach"). She requests that the patronymic be lenited and placed in
the genitive as necessary, but she will not allow major changes. Note to Laurel
staff: the birth date on the form is incorrect; the submitter completed the
forms herself, and while young, she is definitely older than four months.
Ailionóra is found as a heading on p. 18 of
ÓC&M where it is dated to 1497 and 1589.
inghean is a Gaelic patronymic marker meaning "daughter
of".
Tighearnach is found as part of the heading
Tigernach: Tighearnach, Tiarnach on p. 170 of ÓC&M,
where Tigernach is dated to 1088. Woulfe has
Thighearnaigh as a genitive spelling under the heading
Tighearnach on p. 202.
Submitted as Ailionóra inghean Tighearnach, the
spelling of the patronymic was changed to match the genitive form found in
Woulfe: Ailionóra inghean Thighearnaigh.
Name approved as changed and forwarded to Laurel.
* Fionnabhair inghean Thighearnaigh - New Name
The submitter is interested in a feminine name and she will not allow major
changes. If the name must be changed she cares most about the meaning
("Jennifer (pale), daughter of Tighearnach"). she requests that the
patronymic be lenited and placed in the genitive as necessary.
Fionnabhair is found as part of the heading
Finnabair:Fionnabhair, Fionnúir on p. 100 of
ÓC&M. Finnabair was a daughter of Ailill and Medb, queen of
Connacht.
inghean is a Gaelic patronymic marker meaning "daughter
of".
Tighearnach is found as part of the heading
Tigernach: Tighearnach, Tiarnach on p. 170 of ÓC&M,
where Tigernach is dated to 1088. Woulfe has
Thighearnaigh as a genitive spelling under the heading
Tighearnach on p. 202.
Submitted as Fionnabhair inghean Tighearnachh, the
spelling of the patronymic was changed to match the genitive form found in
Woulfe: Fionnabhair inghean Thighearnaigh.
Name approved as changed and forwarded to Laurel.
* Ríoghnach inghean Chonchobhair na Áth Dara -
Kingdom Resub. Name and Device:
Vert, on a plate a tree eradicated proper, on a chief argent three cats'
heads erased azure.
The submitter is interested in a feminine name, and if the name must be
changed, the most import thing is retaining Rioghnach de Ath Dara. She
will not allow major changes; however, she explicitly allows the patronymic to
be dropped if necessary for registration. She will also allow the de
to be dropped or changed to of if necessary. The submitter's name was
returned at the Sep. '01 CoH meeting for lack of documentation of the locative
de Athdara. It was returned again at the Oct. '02 CoH meeting for not
including a submission form. The device was pended in Sep. '01 for lack of a
name.
Ríoghnach is found under the heading Rignach:
Rioghnach on p. 156 of ÓC&M.
inghean is a Gaelic patronymic marker meaning "daughter
of".
Chonchobhair is believed to be the lenited and genitive form
of Conchobhar, which is found under the heading Conchobar:
Conchobhar on p. 57 of ÓC&M. The submitter requests that
changes be made as necessary.
de is a Latin locative preposition meaning "of".
Changed to na to match the language.
Áth Dara is found undated under
Adare on p. 13 of Room. It is said to mean "ford of (the)
oak grove".
Submitted as Rioghnach inghean Chonchobhair de Ath
Dara, we have added the accent to the given name as shown in
ÓC&M. We added the accent to the place name shown by Room and
changed the language of the locative preposition to avoid mixing languages
within the same name phrase. The name was changed to
Ríoghnach inghean Chonchobhair na Áth
Dara .
Name approved as changed and forwarded to Laurel. Device approved and
forwarded to Laurel.
* Tighearnach ua Catháin na Áth Dara - Kingdom
Resub. Name and Device:
Sable, on a bezant a tree eradicated proper, on a chief Or three stags'
heads erased gules.
The submitter is interested in a masculine name. If the name must be changed,
the most import thing is retaining Tighearnach de Ath Dara. He will
not allow major changes; however, he explicitly allows the patronymic to be
dropped if necessary for registration. The submitter's name was returned at the
Sep. '01 CoH meeting for lack of documentation of the locative de
Athdara. The submitter has added the locative, de Ath Dara, to
avoid conflict with Tigernach Ó Catháin which was
registered in Nov. '01. The device was pended in Sep. '01 for lack of name.
Tighearnach is found under the heading Tigernach:
Tighearnach, Tiarnach on p. 170 of ÓC&M, where
Tigernach is dated to 1088.
ua Catháin is a Gaelic patronymic meaning
"descendent of Cathán", which appears as a heading on p. 47 of
ÓC&M.
de is a Latin locative preposition meaning "of".
Changed to na to match the language.
Áth Dara is found undated under
Adare on p. 13 of Room. It is said to mean "ford of (the)
oak grove".
Submitted as Tighearnach ua Catháin de Ath
Dara, we have added the accent to the given name as shown in
ÓC&M. We added the accent to the place name shown by Room and
changed the language of the locative preposition to avoid mixing languages
within the same name phrase. The name was changed to Tighearnach ua
Catháin na Áth Dara.
We have informed the submitter that the roundel should be more circular.
Name approved as changed and forwarded to Laurel. Device approved and
forwarded to Laurel.
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